Notice of Sale - foreclosure
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Notice of Sale - foreclosure
I just received a Notice of Sale scheduled for 2/27/13 in Orange County CA. there is not a pending court action, but I have disputed this for 3 years with an administrative process. I also just sent everyone involved a Declaration and Commercial Bill using the OPPT templates. I'm just not sure where to go from here...I just listened to a call with Heather and an attorney on what to file regarding his court case, not sure if thats applicable to me. Not sure If I need to start a court case or file a complaint, or just approach the local Sheriff with some of the documents they mentioned. Any advise or suggestions would be greatly appreciated...
Thanks,
Thanks,
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They have mentioned another courtesy notice is coming very soon which deals more with cases already in progress. Hopefully that, and the associated instructions, will be of use.
I wish I could offer more...
Kind Regards,
Ron.
I wish I could offer more...
Kind Regards,
Ron.
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Here's my suggestion. Find out where the Notice of Sale came from. Then do some investigative work to find out the names of the people who sit in that office. Send a Courtesy Notice to each one of those individuals referencing the Notice of Sale you just received.smokie wrote:I just received a Notice of Sale scheduled for 2/27/13 in Orange County CA.
If you'd like some help ferreting out some names, give us more details about what's on the Notice of Sale that might give us a clue about what office it came from.
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I just noticed that smokie posted her/his request for help 14 days ago. Sadly, s/he is probably too busy packing to be checking back here for last ditch help.
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That's great, Bereagun. Try to make it dummy proof. Most of us don't have the kind of exposure to UCC that you do!
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wow this is a lot of great information and much of it is so over my head. i mean i know i can learn it if i could better understand it...my left brain's got to open up!!
I've stopped paying the note on the house and am preparing for what's headed my way so all this information is greatly appreciated. i've been gathering so much information on all this the past few weeks yet there's no way i feel comfortable actually using it in court...its that comfort level of KNOWING it rather than WINGING it.
There's a few people who KNOW and are sitting in jail...seems they've hit a nerve and admittedly court freaks me out
Bereagun what in your opinion would be the best approach for me to take at this point? I haven't received anything from the bank yet cause i've only missed the one payment.
It's all so absurd and rediculous to me. I KNOW who I BE so they can go BE who they BE and let the rest of us who don't want to play in their game alone!! Arrrgggg!
It's really comforting knowing there are people who care... who are willing to help. From the bottom of my heart i thank YOU.
I've stopped paying the note on the house and am preparing for what's headed my way so all this information is greatly appreciated. i've been gathering so much information on all this the past few weeks yet there's no way i feel comfortable actually using it in court...its that comfort level of KNOWING it rather than WINGING it.
There's a few people who KNOW and are sitting in jail...seems they've hit a nerve and admittedly court freaks me out
Bereagun what in your opinion would be the best approach for me to take at this point? I haven't received anything from the bank yet cause i've only missed the one payment.
It's all so absurd and rediculous to me. I KNOW who I BE so they can go BE who they BE and let the rest of us who don't want to play in their game alone!! Arrrgggg!
It's really comforting knowing there are people who care... who are willing to help. From the bottom of my heart i thank YOU.
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Bereagun, how has what you do in the area of UCC filings, notices, demands, etc., and helping people in foreclosure situations changed since the OPPT announcement of the foreclosure of all corporations in the world? Do you have less work to do now, or are you of the opinion that people must continue the "fight" from the "bottom" in the same manner, and with all of the same paperwork, as has been done by UCC experts like yourself for the past couple of decades prior to the OPPT announcement? Why isn't the Courtesy Notice enough?
Let's use the metaphor of a car in motion at high speed and the engine stops. The car still keeps going on momentum alone, but when it will eventually come to a stop. Are you suggesting individual UCC business-as-usual in order to slow the car down for the individuals who might still be harmed by the moving car (e.g., passengers, pedestrians), but individuals who are not in imminent danger need only stay out of the way and just wait until it comes to a stop before stepping out into the street again? Do you believe that the car's engine has stopped, or do you think there's a chance it will restart itself?
Let's use the metaphor of a car in motion at high speed and the engine stops. The car still keeps going on momentum alone, but when it will eventually come to a stop. Are you suggesting individual UCC business-as-usual in order to slow the car down for the individuals who might still be harmed by the moving car (e.g., passengers, pedestrians), but individuals who are not in imminent danger need only stay out of the way and just wait until it comes to a stop before stepping out into the street again? Do you believe that the car's engine has stopped, or do you think there's a chance it will restart itself?
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So, it sounds like you don't believe the corporations of the world have in fact been foreclosed and are now non-entities. It sounds like you feel we still need to "fight" them, which means you believe they still exist.
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If there are no more corporations, there are no more employees. Everyone is now acting individually with full responsibility and liability, whether they know it or not. Of course, most individuals who are former employees of former corporations, still think of themselves as employees. The Courtesy Notice is not meant to "fight" them. It's meant to kindly and gently inform them that their status has changed.
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Bereagun wrote:The Courtesy Notice has an OR ELSE. If the employees don't stop Slave
System activities then they are fully responsible for the OR ELSE.
It's not the Courtesy Notice (or failure to comply with it) that will make an individual (who still thinks of themselves as an "employee") fully responsible for their actions. It is the elimination of the corporation that has already made them fully responsible.
Individuals are still free to form, join and maintain slavery systems, if that is what they freely choose to do. What has changed is that they cannot attempt to coerce another individual to become an unwilling or unwitting player in a slave system.
So, the Courtesy Notice is not demanding that they "stop Slave System activities." It is only demanding that they cease such activities that impinge upon the free will and property rights of the Proponent, unless there is a lawfully binding contract between them and Proponent.
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well they just moved my sale date from 2/27 to 3/27. I had already filed the UCC and sent out 3 copies of my declaration and commercial bill to everyone involved before I even found out about the courtesy notice. at least this has bought me some time...they are probably trying to figure out the commerical bill:) thanks for everyones replies and responses. I plan on taking a courtesy notice to the sale and giving it to the auctioneer if it goes that far. will keep you posted.
thanks again
thanks again
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...And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Give them the greatest you can give.
The courtesy notice is an opportunity to be of service to Self, your own Self, the Self of all reflected in the form of another.
This is work with and for others, work on oneSelf, a time to learn how to simply be.
The slavery system is an "aside," almost of no consequence, a creation of our own construction.
We have been invited to "be" ourselves, by ourselves, to release the fiction within, to step aside the fiction without. They are one and the same.
Give them the greatest you can give.
The courtesy notice is an opportunity to be of service to Self, your own Self, the Self of all reflected in the form of another.
This is work with and for others, work on oneSelf, a time to learn how to simply be.
The slavery system is an "aside," almost of no consequence, a creation of our own construction.
We have been invited to "be" ourselves, by ourselves, to release the fiction within, to step aside the fiction without. They are one and the same.
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Bereagun wrote:Captain!
You are right but we still have to deal with the reality that the Powers that Were don't have the same outlook. If they did we wouldn't be talking about remedy.
True, Bereagun, true.
Thing is, we are not dealing directly with the powers that were, just their system. Heather & Co have that particular pleasure it would seem.
We are dealing with people like us.
There is no us and them, just us, and an opportunity to apply the Golden Rule. This has always been so.
Having said that, with regard to courtesy notices and all the rest, I have not as yet DOne anything so I guess I'm just talking through a hole in my head.
My turn is coming...then perhaps "us" becomes "them," and "them" are a pack of bastards!
...remember us and the rule Ron, remember the Golden Rule....
Very happy you are on here Bereagun.
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