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Time to take down the IRS

Post  ascendingenergy on Sun Feb 03, 2013 1:42 am

OK,

I got to thinking and, the one area that I could use some help is divorcing myself from the IRS and, there ILLEGAL practices.

Anyone wanna help be get back all the money they have stolen from me since birth? I'm ready if you are. Very Happy

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Re: Time to take down the IRS

Post  dreamwalker on Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:02 pm

I've been back and forth with them for over a year but I've refused to back down. So far they have removed over $500 in interest and penalties and even tho its minimal what they say I still owe them I refuse to pay. When speaking to them it makes me wonder if they're robots...and the letters they send are useless templates void of any human interaction.

Never again will I be a slave to that system. The best thing to do is to never engage with them at all... if I knew then what I know now... famous last words! Very Happy
It's funny how people think being paid "under the table" is somehow morally wrong...breaking the law... eeeeee gads its all that PROGRAMMING!! cyclops Arrow cyclops
If people only knew the truth ... Rolling Eyes

here's something interesting... http://www.supremelaw.org/sls/31answers.htm

also...

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I TOTALLY understand...

Post  ascendingenergy on Sun Feb 03, 2013 3:16 pm

Thanks tcperrin for posting a reply. I appreciate your input and, your experience with this.

I know allllll about how "crooked" the IRS is and, I want my freakin money back that they stole from me dammit.. Razz

I have been aware of this illusion for some time and, I believe I first became aware of it when I originally watched Michael Badnariks constitution class. Here is a link..



I KNOW this will happen soon but, just wanted to see who else was doing this.

What was your first step in dealing with them? What forms did you file to get this started?

Thanks again,
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Re: Time to take down the IRS

Post  dreamwalker on Sun Feb 03, 2013 4:09 pm

Long story short they said I owed them unpaid taxes, interest and penalties on a not paid 1040... and we came to a written agreement on what I would have to pay. After I paid what was required of me by the agreement they came after me for more. Phone calls where of no consequence so I began writing them letters expressing I was not going to pay what according to our agreement I did not owe. Its been a roller coaster ride and still is... BUT I'm not paying one more penny! Mad Mad Mad
Like yourself and many others I too want my money back god knows they've stolen enough to fatten the FEDS pockets Evil or Very Mad ... however this may be a tough nut to crack... not to say it can't be done. Very Happy
Thanx for the video...haven't seen this one . I'm all for exposing the systems and I'm glad to see more people getting on board!

cheers!
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Fifty ways to leave your (IRS) lover

Post  Pormica on Tue Feb 12, 2013 5:49 am

There are many, many ways to "leave" the IRS and even to bill them for wrongful actions.

1) If you ever signed a 1040 form and have not since rescinded your signature and noticed them that you are NOT a resident of the Federal District or Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands, Guam, Marshall Islands or other such US Territories; you may want to notice them by sending a certified letter to a local Revenue Officer (by name and number) and a copy of same to the Area Director of IRS, Your Area #, Attn: Compliance Technical Support Mgr. at correct address.
You do NOT send a new 1040 form made out with a "zero" balance, because that means you have now said that you DO owe taxes and they will invite you in to justify your bookeeping adjustment to ZERO. Just rescind all signatures and say that they can send you a refund for the taxes they have collected over the last 7 years or they can just keep it and you will make a claim later on....thanks so very much and have a nice day, and you will not be filing again unless you can see a valid reason for doing so - such as your suddenly going into the business of Alcohol, Tobacco or Firearm sales or Hemp or Cotton growing.

2) If you want to notice them that A) you request a release of lien or a return of levy or B) that you are going to be making an administrative claim; you must notify the above Compliance Technical Support Manager and copy a local IRS Revenue Officer with same as part of your lawful administrative process. That is required by both UCC code, USC code and IRM.

3) Humans who are secured-party creditors and who have filed a Security Agreement making their STRAWMAN + SS and Taxpayer ID#s the bailor, thus liening up the entire STRAWMAN ESTATE in perpetuity and for the tune of ....oh....let's say $3 trillion, $900 billion ....have first dibs, as a Federal Tax Lien is the lowest form of lien, because it is always unverified, unsubstantiated and , anyways .. tell the CTS Manager (described above): "upon review of the publicly filed (your own) UCC Financing Statements, you will find that, according to IRM (Internal Revenue Manual) 5.12.2.17 (10-30-2009) and 26 USC ยง 6323-6325 Federal Tax Liens cannot be valid against/in consideration of and/or superior to existent security agreements and/or against a secured party and paramount security interest holder in NAME AND IDENTIFIER #'s of STRAWMAN. "
Listen, almost ANYTHING is superior to a Federal Tax Lien; any OTHER kind of lien or security agreement certainly is. Shoot.....a bill from a credit card company is superior to it.... an FTL is junk.

4) My favorite ploy is that when I made my updated UCC filing for the state I am currently residing in, I put in a $5 million "Co-Claimant fee" for anyone who wanted to bring a claim against the STRAWMAN & IDENTIFIER #'s.
You now realize that any time a third party debt collector wants to make a claim, the IRS , a court, a traffic/police officer, the Social Security admin....etc. just send them a copy of the publicly filed UCC document that includes your Co-Claimant fee and ask them.... "If you are sure you would like to contract with me for a claim against STRAWMAN, simply do not respond to this mail, or send a check for $5 million less the amount you would like to keep on your books for the claim to xxxxxxxx, etc. etc."
If they do not respond, then send them an invoice for your "fee". In 30 days, if they do not pay, send a notice of fault, 15 days after they receive that, if they do not pay, send them a notice of default. Give them 10 days after the notice of default on the invoice, you start an administrative claim in admiralty process.
Check your local Civil Codes for the local compensatory and punitive damage schedule. That is your multiplier....oh....the fun goes on and on....

Why are you waiting to them to invite you to their playground to play their rigged games with their equipment?

Did you know that a properly verified claim and the registered public filings for same are a negotiable security? Do you know how much a company like W**m*rt or another professional corporation with a qualified financial department would give you for a correct, verified, properly executed lien claim of (let's say) $100 million against the IRS Corporation?

The IRS uses it's own books and accounting practices. They NEVER make sense, so don't try to "get back" money that they have taken from you. However, you may consider the possibility of making a properly documented and "well-founded" administrative claim against them.

Get to work.
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Thanks bunches

Post  ascendingenergy on Tue Feb 12, 2013 7:41 am

Thank you very much Pormica for posting all of this info. I for one really appreciate it.

This gives me some kind of a starting point and, as I move forward, I can share what I have uncovered.

Great info. Cool

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Re: Time to take down the IRS

Post  dreamwalker on Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:24 pm

WOW! Thank you Pormica... really appreciate all this information.

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alleged IRS

Post  dweller711 on Mon Feb 25, 2013 11:28 am

Thank you Pormica for your post. I'm still trying to understand it though! This is why I have so much trouble with the alleged IRS, I can't understand their jargon! So you're saying I would be better off following one of your tactics than issuing a courtesy notice? I owe the IRS for back taxes on 1099 employment. I have also filed a complaint with them that the 1099 status was really an employee job. They told me what to do and when to do it. They have been dragging their heels for a year and a half and won't make a ruling on that complaint. the $5400 in back taxes comes from that time period the complaint refers to. They sent me a certified letter a few days ago telling me that I owe them or I may not get a return this year or they may take my property (I have nothing other than an old car). I stopped paying the monthly payment to them when I went through a bankruptcy late last year. I am still working a 1099 status and I'm still broke and I'm fed up with the IRS!!
I'm hoping to find some support with all of you so I can formulate a plan to rid myself of these leeches. Thank you everyone.

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